Are There Any Words of God Outside the Bible?

Heated Debate: Are There Any Words of God Outside the Bible?

By Zhongxin In the study, Muxun, Fu Rong and Si’en were studying the Bible together … Muxun said, “Sisters, I have a question that I’d like to ask. Ever since I started to believe in the Lord, I’ve always believed that all of God’s words are recorded in the Bible and that there are none outside the Bible. But recently, there are some people preaching that the Lord Jesus has already returned, and that the Lord is speaking new words beyond those that are recorded in the Bible. I feel very confused about this. Are there words of God outside the Bible? I want to hear your views on this matter.” Fu Rong said in earnest: “I used to think this way just like you, believing that the words of God are all within the Bible, and that there can never be God’s word beyond the Bible. But recently when I was talking about this issue with a brother who has preached for many years, he told me with certainty that there are God’s words outside the Bible. It clearly states in the Gospel of John: ‘And there are also many other things which Jesus did, the which, if they should be written every one, I suppose that even the world itself could not contain the books that should be written’ (John 21:25). There are not many words of the Lord Jesus recorded in the New Testament. Actually, the Lord Jesus had preached and worked for at least three years, and the words He uttered exceed what is recorded in the Bible many times over. That is a fact no one can deny. This verifies that the work and words of the Lord Jesus are not completely recorded in the Bible. Besides, it says in Revelation 2:17: ‘He that has an ear, let him hear what the Spirit says to the churches; To him that overcomes will I give to eat of the hidden manna.’ Revelation 10:4 says: ‘And when the seven thunders had uttered their voices, I was about to write: and I heard a voice from heaven saying to me, Seal up those things which the seven thunders uttered, and write them not.’ From these prophecies in the Book of Revelation we can understand that ‘the hidden manna’ refers to the hidden words of God. It does not refer to the words of Jehovah God and those of the Lord Jesus recorded in the Bible, but to God’s new words in the last days, which are not recorded in the Bible. Moreover, the voices of the seven thunders were not written by John, which is adequate proof that they are extraneous to the Bible. So, based on these two biblical prophecies, we can be certain that there are actually God’s words outside the Bible.” Muxun and Si’en were surprised to hear this, but after careful contemplation, they all nodded their heads. “Hmm,” Muxun said thoughtfully, “based on these verses, there should be God’s words beyond those which are recorded in the Bible. Clearly, the view that ‘God’s words are all recorded in the Bible and there are none outside the Bible’ does not accord with the biblical prophecies. I’ve read countless times the verses you’ve just read, so why haven’t I ever understood them to this level of meaning? It seems that it was because I didn’t make effort to contemplate while reading the Bible that I had no understanding of God’s work and words.” Si’en went on to say, “In the light of the prophecies you’ve just read, there should be God’s words outside the Bible. But there is one question I still don’t understand—if there are God’s words beyond those which are in the Bible, then why does it say in Revelation 22:18: ‘For I testify to every man that hears the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add to these things, God shall add to him the plagues that are written in this book’? According to this prophecy, if there are people saying that there are God’s new words outside the Bible, wouldn’t that be adding something to the Bible and resisting God?” After some contemplation, Fu Rong replied in earnest, “This is how I understand this verse. Anyone who has a knowledge of the background of the Bible knows that the Book of Revelation was written about 90 years after the Lord. It is a record of the vision John saw at Patmos Island, which contains the prophecies about the Lord’s work when He returns. The New Testament, however, was formed around 300 AD, about 200 years after the Book of Revelation. So, when John said no one shall add anything to the prophecy of this book, ‘this book’ he mentioned referred to the Book of Revelation, not the New Testament or the entire Bible, much less did he mean that there wouldn’t be any new words from God in the future.” Hearing this, Si’en nodded her head. “Hmm, this makes sense,” said Muxun. “Determining that there can be no further words from God outside of the Bible based on this prophecy is not at all tenable. Our understanding of this verse has been really off the mark!” “It’s true,” Fu Rong continued. “We all know that what John recorded in the Book of Revelation was only the vision he beheld, the prophecies about the Lord’s work in the last days, not the reality of it. The new words God shall express outside of the Bible are not additions to the prophecies in the Book of Revelation, but the fulfillment of them. If we go by these prophecies and draw the conclusion that all of God’s words and work are within the Bible, then how can we know ‘the hidden manna,’ the voices of the seven thunders, and ‘what the Spirit says to the churches’? Let’s look at Revelation 5:1–5: ‘And I saw in the right hand of Him that sat on the throne a book written within…

God’s-work-and-Bible

What is the relationship between God’s work and the Bible? Which comes first, God’s work or the Bible?

The answer from God’s word: “… it is nothing more than a historical record of God’s work, and a testament to the previous two stages of God’s work, and offers you no understanding of the aims of God’s work. Everyone who has read the Bible knows that it documents the two stages of God’s work during the Age of Law and the Age of Grace. The Old Testament chronicles the history of Israel and Jehovah’s work from the time of creation until the end of the Age of Law. The New Testament records Jesus’ work on earth, which is in the Four Gospels, as well as the work of Paul; are they not historical records? … By reading the Bible, at most you’ll understand a little of the history of Israel, you’ll learn about the lives of Abraham, David, and Moses, you’ll find out about how they revered Jehovah, how Jehovah burned those who opposed Him, and how He spoke to the people of that age. You’ll only find out about God’s work in the past. The records of the Bible relate to how the early people of Israel revered God and lived under the guidance of Jehovah. Because the Israelites were God’s chosen people, in the Old Testament you can see all the people of Israel’s loyalty to Jehovah, how all those who obeyed Jehovah were cared for and blessed by Him, you can learn that when God worked in Israel He was full of mercy and compassion, as well as possessed of consuming flames, and that all the Israelites, from the lowly to the mighty, revered Jehovah, and so the whole country was blessed by God. Such is the history of Israel recorded in the Old Testament.” from “Concerning the Bible (4)” “The work of creation happened before there was mankind, but the Book of Genesis only came after there was mankind; it was a book written by Moses during the Age of Law. It’s like the things that happen among you today: After they happen, you write them down to show to people in the future, and for the people of the future, what you recorded are things that happened in times past—they are nothing more than history. The things recorded in the Old Testament are Jehovah’s work in Israel, and that which is recorded in the New Testament is the work of Jesus during the Age of Grace; they document the work done by God in two different ages. The Old Testament documents the work of God during the Age of Law, and thus the Old Testament is a historical book, while the New Testament is the product of the work of the Age of Grace. When the new work began, these books became out of date—and thus, the New Testament is also a historical book. Of course, the New Testament is not as systematic as the Old Testament, nor does it record as many things. All of the many words spoken by Jehovah of the Old Testament are recorded in the Bible, whereas only some of the words of Jesus are recorded in the Four Gospels. Of course, Jesus also did a lot of work, but it wasn’t recorded in detail. That less is recorded in the New Testament is because of how much work Jesus did; the amount of His work during three-and-a-half years on earth and that of the apostles was far less than the work of Jehovah. And thus, there are less books in the New Testament than the Old Testament. ………… … During the time of Jesus, Jesus led the Jews and all those who followed Him according to the Holy Spirit’s work in Him at the time. He didn’t take the Bible as the basis of what He did, but spoke according to His work; He paid no heed to what the Bible said, nor did He search in the Bible for a path to lead His followers. Right from when He began to work, He spread the way of repentance—a word of which there was absolutely no mention in the prophecies of the Old Testament. Not only did He not act according to the Bible, but He also led a new path, and did new work. Never did He refer to the Bible when He preached. During the Age of Law, no one had ever been able to perform His miracles of healing the sick and casting out demons. His work, His teachings, His authority—no one had done this during the Age of Law. Jesus simply did His newer work, and even though many people condemned Him using the Bible—and even used the Old Testament to crucify Him—His work surpassed the Old Testament; if this were not so, why did people nail Him to the cross? Was it not because it said nothing in the Old Testament of His teaching, and His ability to heal the sick and cast out demons? His work was in order to lead a new path, it was not to deliberately ‘pick a fight’ against the Bible, or to deliberately dispense with the Old Testament. He simply came to perform His ministry, to bring the new work to those who yearned for and sought Him. … Does doctrine need to be applied to the work of God? And must it be according to the foretellings of prophets? After all, which is greater: God or the Bible? Why must God’s work be according to the Bible? Could it be that God has no right to exceed the Bible? Can God not depart from the Bible and do other work? Why did Jesus and His disciples not keep the Sabbath? If He were to keep the Sabbath and practice according to the commandments of the Old Testament, why did Jesus not keep the Sabbath after He came, but instead washed feet, covered head, broke bread, and drank wine? Isn’t this all absent from the commandments of the Old Testament? If Jesus honored the Old Testament, why did He defy these doctrines? You…

What Kind of Book Is the Bible?

The Bible is famous for its classic and authority. It has played an important role in the process of human civilization. In history, the Bible has benefited many great men. It also has a profound influence on mankind’s science, education, literature, law, economy, and so on. There are many words of wisdom about human life in the Bible, which tells what the meaningful life is like and shows people the direction of life. The Bible records the work God has done, which covers the Bible with a mysterious veil. Countless Christians are attracted to study the Bible hard, hoping to know the Holy One through this book. As a result, people all regard the Bible as “God.” Many people can’t help but ask, “Can the Bible be equivalent to God? What kind of book is the Bible on earth?” Almighty Godsays, “The Bible is a historical record of God’s work in Israel, including many of the words of the ancient prophets and some of the words that Jehovah spoke when He performed His work. So everyone sees it as a ‘holy’ book (because God is great and holy). Of course, this arises from man’s reverence for Jehovah and his adoration of God. Man calls the Bible a holy book, simply because he, a created being, is filled with reverence and adoration for the Creator, and some even call it a ‘heavenly book.’ In truth, the Bible is only a record written by man, was not named by Jehovah Himself or produced under His direction; that is to say, the Bible’s author is not ‘God,’ but ‘man.’ It is called the ‘Holy’ Bible, which is only a respectful title man gives to it. Jesus and Jehovah did not confer with each other and then decide to call it that; the idea came just from man. For it was not written by Jehovah, much less by Jesus, but rather by many prophets of old, apostles, and foretellers, whose writings were assembled by later generations into a book that was ancient and was seen as very holy, and as containing many unfathomable and profound mysteries to be unraveled by generations to come. So people came to further regard the Bible as a ‘heavenly book,’ and with the Four Gospels and the Revelation of the New Testament added in, people began to see it, to an even greater degree, as a book different from any other. Thus no one dared dissect this ‘heavenly book’ because it was too ‘holy.’” “Although the Bible is a history book written by human beings, it records the principles by which many of the ancient saints and prophets served God, as well as the apostles’ experiences of serving Him in more recent times, which are real seeing and knowledge that can serve as a reference for people seeking the true way in the present age. So, one can find many ways of life in the Bible that cannot be found in other books. Because they are all the ways of life given to generations of prophets and apostles through their experience of the Holy Spirit’s work, and because much of this language is of great value to people and gives them necessary sustenance, it is a book that everyone is eager to read. And because there are so many secrets hidden in the Bible, people regard it differently than they do any other writing by great spiritual men. By recording the experiences and knowledge of those who served Jehovah and Jesus in the old and new ages, the Bible has given much inspiration, illumination, and many ways of practice to later generations. The reason that the Bible surpasses the writings of other great spiritual men is that their writings all draw their material from the Bible, and their experiences all stem from the Bible and are directed toward interpreting it. So even though people could draw sustenance from the books of any great spiritual man, they still worship the Bible, for they regard it as ever so lofty and profound. Some books of the Bible, like the letters of Peter and Paul, carry the word of life and can be a source of help and sustenance. But nevertheless they are out of date; they are writings of a past age. No matter how good they are, they are applicable only to one period of time, and will not last forever. For God’s work is always moving forward, it is not frozen in time at the age of Paul and Peter, will not remain forever fixed at the Age of Grace in which Jesus was crucified. So, these books are applicable only to the Age of Grace, not to the final Age of Kingdom; they were able to provide sustenance only to believers in the Age of Grace, and cannot do the same for the saints of the Age of Kingdom. No matter how good these books may be, they are obsolete now. It is the same with Jehovah’s creation of the world and His work in Israel; no matter how good the work was, there would come a time when it was no longer applicable, when it became a thing of the past. It is also the same with God’s work; no matter how good it is, it will eventually come to an end, and cannot remain frozen forever at His creation or His crucifixion. No matter how persuasive His crucifixion was, no matter how effective it was at defeating Satan, work is work, and the times are the times; the work must progress past its foundation, and times must change. For just as surely as the world was created, it will come to an end—this is inevitable. So taken in the context of today, the ‘word of life’ contained in the New Testament, the Four Gospels and the Letters of the Apostles, is just a history book, a stack of yellowed pages. How can a stack of yellowed pages lead mankind into a new era? No matter how able they were to give…

A Christian’s Diary: Errors in Bible? What?

December 4, 2017 Monday Tonight, I, when studying the Bible on the Internet, heard an astonishing news: The Bible’s author is not God, but men! Having believed in the Lord for so many years, I’ve read the Bible often and listened to famous pastors preach in various places often. But it was the first time I heard this argument, “The author of the Bible is man, not God.” I remembered that pastors preached, “Though the Bible had more than 40 authors in different times, what they wrote has no mistake. This shows that God is the true Author of the Bible. The Bible is from the Holy Spirit.” I am perplexed. So what is the truth of the matter? December 8, 2017 Friday Long before the appointed time for the Bible study, I had been already online and waited. The moment I saw the preaching sister, I hastened to ask her: “Hello sister, could you tell me who the author of the Bible is?” My question resonated with other brothers and sisters and they all wanted to figure it out. The sister then said without haste, “Your question is very crucial. It is closely related to how we should believe in God in a way that conforms to His will. If we want to understand this aspect of the truth, we first need to understand a fact: Does the Bible really contain no inaccuracies or errors?” Her surprising questions caused a stir, eliciting immediate reactions from us. We said, “Surely everything in the Bible is right!” A brother emphasized with all certainty, “All scripture is given by inspiration of God. There isn’t the slightest mistake.” However, the following verses that the sister studied with us flabbergasted us. Concerning Peter’s denying the Lord three times, Matthew 26:34 records, “Truly I say to you, That this night, before the cock crow, you shall deny me thrice.” But Mark 14:30 says, “Truly I say to you, That this day, even in this night, before the cock crow twice, you shall deny me thrice.” In these two verses, what Matthew and Mark recorded is the same thing and the Lord Jesus’ word, but the timing of the thing they recorded is noticeably different. Also, the Bible records two entirely different statements about the death of Judas. Matthew 27:5 says, “And he cast down the pieces of silver in the temple, and departed, and went and hanged himself.” But Acts 1:18 says, “Now this man purchased a field with the reward of iniquity; and falling headlong, he burst asunder in the middle, and all his bowels gushed out.” The contents of these two verses are about how Judas died after betraying the Lord Jesus, but the way of his dying is different. The sister said, “If all scripture were given by inspiration of God, there wouldn’t be the slightest mistake. For God never commits errors. The fact proves that these records were written by the authors themselves but were not from the inspiration of the Holy Spirit.” The fact left me speechless. However, deep inside, I was unable to accept it. How come the Bible has mistakes? It’s really incredible. Seeing that we were silent, the sister continued, “Let me read two passages of words to you, and then you’ll understand better. ‘The Gospel of Matthew of the New Testament documents Jesus’ genealogy. At the start, it says that Jesus was a descendant of Abraham, the son of David, and the son of Joseph; next it says that Jesus was conceived by the Holy Spirit, and born of a virgin—which would mean He was not the son of Joseph or the descendant of Abraham, that He was not the son of David. The genealogy, though, insists on associating Jesus with Joseph. Next, the genealogy begins to record the process by which Jesus was born. It says Jesus was conceived by the Holy Spirit, that He was born of a virgin, and not the son of Joseph. Yet in the genealogy it is clearly written that Jesus was the son of Joseph, and because the genealogy is written for Jesus, it records forty-two generations. When it goes to the generation of Joseph, it hurriedly says that Joseph was the husband of Mary, words which are in order to prove that Jesus was the descendant of Abraham. Is this not a contradiction? The genealogy clearly documents Joseph’s ancestry, it is obviously the genealogy of Joseph, but Matthew insists that it is the genealogy of Jesus. Does this not deny the fact of Jesus’ conception by the Holy Spirit? Thus, is the genealogy by Matthew not a human idea? It is ridiculous! In this way, you know that this book did not come entirely from the Holy Spirit’ (‘Concerning the Bible (3)’). “‘If the Four Gospels all came from the Holy Spirit, then why was it that Matthew, Mark, Luke and John each said something different about the work of Jesus? … Carefully read the Four Gospels; read what they recorded about the things that Jesus did, and the words He spoke. Each account was, quite simply, different, and each had its own perspective. If what was written by the authors of these books all came from the Holy Spirit, then it should all be the same and consistent. Why then are there discrepancies? Is man not extremely foolish, to be unable to see this? … After Luke and Matthew had heard the words of Jesus, and seen the work of Jesus, they spoke of their own knowledge, in the manner of reminiscences detailing some of the facts done by Jesus. Can you say that their knowledge was completely revealed by the Holy Spirit?’” (“Concerning Appellations and Identity”). These two passages of words that the sister read attracted our attention. These words are quite reasonable! It’s really the case! How can God have a genealogy? The genealogy written by Matthew is obviously the genealogy of Joseph, but he insists that it is the Lord Jesus’ genealogy. Is this not ridiculous? Does this not deny the fact…

Hot Discussion! Are All the Words in the Bible God’s Words?

Here I forward a post: Hello, brothers and sisters! Today, I send a post for the first time, and I have a question to discuss with you. Give me a hand, please. All Scripture, Inspired by God? But recently, an older sister said to me, “We have been thinking that all the words in the Bible are God’s words, but there’re words that serpent spoke to entice Eve in Genesis, words that Satan spoke to accuse Job in the Book of Job, and also, words that the ass spoke to Balaam in Numbers. Can we say their words are God’s words? Isn’t this serious blasphemy against God? The sin of blaspheming God shall never be forgiven!” Hearing her words, I couldn’t help producing the confusion: The Bible indeed contains the words of Satan, the ass, and the Pharisees. Their words can’t be said to be God’s words, or it will seriously offend God! In that case, why did Brother Paul say that the Bible is inspired by God? Which kind of saying is in line with the Lord’s intention on earth? This question is crucial, but I really can’t figure it out. Brothers and sisters, do you have different understandings? I’m looking forward to your replies. Thank you! Posted by Zhen Mudao Reply: Jason: All the words in the Bible are God’s words, and what is wrong with what we are receiving? Paul said very clearly in 2 Timothy that the Bible is all inspired by God, and so all words in the Bible are God’s words. We are going by Paul’s words. How can this be wrong? Cassidy: Yeah, I agree with Jason’s opinion, and give you a thumbs up. In my opinion, moderator, you think too much, @Zhen Mudao. All words in the Bible are God’s words, and how could there still be any doubt on this? This is acknowledged by the leaders of the entire religious community; the pastors and elders also preach like this. And so it is unnecessary for us to doubt there is something wrong with it. Stretching your hand to touch light: I don’t quite agree with the two comments above, and my point of view is different from yours. Many brothers and sisters all believe these words of Paul. But first, we need to know one point: Paul’s word only represents the word of a human, not God’s word. We see that the entire Bible has sixty-six books, and we don’t find that God says “The Bible is all inspired by God” and “All the words in the Bible are God’s words.” Since God didn’t say it, then is the word of Paul in line with God’s word? Do the word of the Holy Spirit testify to that? If this statement by Paul is corroborated by the words of the Lord Jesus or the Holy Spirit, then we should accept and obey that, which is completely in line with the Lord’s intentions. No matter who he is, as long as his words are not testified by the words of the Lord Jesus or the Holy Spirit, then we cannot accept or obey them blindly. Because man is man, and is only a creature, man’s words are not able to replace the Creator’s intentions; only the Lord Jesus whom we believe in is the Lord of the kingdom of heaven. Only by acting according to the words of God, can we be approved by God. Luo Chen’ai: The words of “Stretching your hand to touch light” are very insightful, and these questions are really worthy of our reflection. If we want to obtain the Lord’s approval, then we have to pay attention to seeking the Lord’s intentions, and use His words as our principle and basis in everything. Only in such way will we not hold on to some traditions of men and statements without the basis. Otherwise, all will be in vain eventually! Zhen Mudao: Hearing what you say, I think of a fact. Luo Chen’ai: LOL. Moderator, what do you think of? Please share it with us. EXPECTING … Zhen Mudao: As we all know, Paul used to resist God and oppose the Lord Jesus, and he was the ringleader of the opposition against the Lord Jesus’ work. Even though the Lord Jesus chose Paul as an apostle to spread the gospel, Paul was still a created creature. Therefore, his words are undoubtedly all the words of a man. The Lord Jesus is God, while all of the Lord Jesus’ apostles and disciples are men, and they cannot be compared to the Lord Jesus Himself. Therefore, as for the words said by man, we cannot accept and obey them blindly, but ought to seek whether they are in accordance with God’s will, which is of vital importance for us to enter the kingdom of heaven. Jason: Your fellowships are indeed reasonable. The words of Paul only represent his personal ideas, not the Lord Jesus’ intentions, which is the fact we cannot deny. However, no matter what you say, the words “All scripture is given by inspiration of God” said by Brother Paul is written in the Bible, and so it surely makes sense; all the pastors and elders of the religious community as a whole preach in this way. Do you dare to deny it? Cassidy: Jason is right! Give you another thumbs up. Today, I luckily meet a bosom friend. Your viewpoints fit in with mine readily! Stretching your hand to touch light: Since we all, according to 2 Timothy 3:16, believe that the Bible is all inspired by God and that all the words in the Bible are God’s words, then let’s investigate the background of Paul’s words together, shall we? Zhen Mudao: I agree with you. Which brother and sister is clearer on this aspect of the truth, please reply to it actively! Jianguang: Occasionally passing by, I never imagined that I would meet this problem … It is coincidence that I have studied theology in the…

Is God’s Work Done According to the Bible?

Since Almighty God’s work of the last days was carried out in Mainland China, His utterances have shaken all denominations and sects. When those who pursue the truth and long for God’s appearance hear God’s voice, they all seek and investigate Almighty God’s work of the last days after being moved by the Holy Spirit. They have seen the appearance of God in God’s words, been taken before God’s throne, and attended the wedding feast of the Lamb. However, some people, because of their notions and imaginations, refuse to accept Almighty God’s work of the last days, thinking that Almighty God’s work of the last days exceeds the Bible. And then follow various voices of judging and slandering God’s work. Some people say: “All God’s word and work is in the Bible. What you preach is beyond the Bible, so we cannot accept.” Some say: “Our belief in God must be in accordance with the Bible. Belief in God is belief in the Bible, and belief in the Bible is belief in God.” And some others say: “The Bible is the canon of the Christianity. For thousands of years, people have believed in the Lord based upon the Bible. If we depart from the Bible, then that’s not belief in the Lord and we cannot gain life.” As one of the members who are fortunate enough to accept Almighty God’s work of the last days, I’d like to seek and fellowship about the relationship between God’s work and the Bible with brothers and sisters. May we hold a humble and seeking heart toward Almighty God’s work of the last days. Because the Lord Jesus has told us long ago: “Blessed are they which do hunger and thirst after righteousness: for they shall be filled” (Matthew 5:6). “Blessed are the pure in heart: for they shall see God” (Mat 5:8). Let’s look back: Before God created the heavens and earth and all things, there was no mankind or all things, let alone the Bible. At that time, on what basis did God do the work of creating the world? At the beginning of the Age of Law, mankind even didn’t know how to live. Not until Jehovah God guided them did they just come to know about it. Who could record the work God did in the Age of Law ahead of time? Wasn’t it recorded after God did the work? In the Age of Grace, there was only the Old Testament when the Lord came to work. Then what did God base His work of the Age of Grace upon? All those who are familiar with the Bible know that the New Testament wasn’t compiled until 300 years later after the Lord Jesus resurrected and ascended to heaven. So, before the New Testament existed, didn’t the Lord Jesus carry out His redemption work in the Age of Grace all the same? Let’s see Almighty God’s work and word in the last days. It is only referred to in the prophecy of Revelation. Referring to the prophecy, it means the work that has yet to be done by God and the word that has yet to be spoken. Can Almighty God’s work and word travel back and forth in time and be recorded in the Bible ahead of time? In our fellowship up to here, brothers and sisters, should we still believe that all of God’s word and work is recorded in the Bible? Still believe that betraying the Bible is fraudulent? And still believe all God’s work and word is in line with the Bible? In fact, the reason for this is because we worship the Bible or blindly trust it, and thus we have no place for God in our heart. In fact, much of Jehovah God’s and the Lord Jesus’ work is not recorded in the Bible. Just as apostle John said: “And there are also many other things which Jesus did, the which, if they should be written every one, I suppose that even the world itself could not contain the books that should be written” (John 21:25). And the Lord Jesus has said: “Search the scriptures; for in them you think you have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me. And you will not come to me, that you might have life” (Jhn 5:39–40). From the Lord Jesus’ words, we can see: The Bible is only a testimony for God, and there are also some words teaching people to live and worship God in it, so it cannot give us eternal life. Only Christ is the One who bestows life. We think the Bible can save man and give us eternal life, therefore we worship it and put blind faith in it. However, from the Lord Jesus’ words, we can see that it is from our notion and imagination and is not in accordance with God’s intention. The Lord Jesus’ work has explained all this. It is because the Lord Jesus’ work was not recorded in the Old Testament that the religious leaders, scribes, and Pharisees, in those days, who only admitted the records in the Old Testament, didn’t think the Lord Jesus was the coming Messiah foretold in the Old Testament. When they saw the Lord Jesus heal the sick on the Sabbath, they thought His work and word was beyond the Old Testament, so they resisted and condemned the Lord Jesus’ work and word and nailed Him to the cross. Because they offended God’s disposition, they were punished by God. As a result, the nation of Israel was destroyed. However, nowadays the religious leaders and pastors still hold on to the Bible, thinking God’s work and word cannot go beyond the Bible, so they reject the work and word of the returned Lord Jesus—the Christ of the last days. What difference is there between them and the Jews at that time who crucified the Lord Jesus? Aren’t we afraid of the destruction of the Jew? One day, I saw God’s words say: “Does doctrine need to be applied to the work of God? And must it be according to the foretellings…

I Believe in God Not the Bible

I Believe in God Not the Bible

By Zheng Yan After believing in the Lord Jesus, because I was very zealous in my pursuit, I became a co-worker. At one time, a senior preacher came to gather with us and said, “Brothers and sisters, Now the Eastern Lightningfollowers are testifying that the Lord Jesus has returned. They don’t read the Bible. Is this right? Believing in God is believing in the Bible, and departing from the Bible is not believing in God….” Afterward, he told us how to guard against Eastern Lightning. After hearing what he said, I thought: “Right! Aren’t we believing in the Bible during all the years of our belief in God? Is departing from the Bible still believing in God?” However, I wondered: Though the preacher always tells us to guard against Eastern Lightning and not to get in contact with them, why have so many of the “good sheep” still been stolen away by them? Sister Wang, who managed the churches of the three northeastern provinces of China, accepted Eastern Lightning, and so did Sister Lan, who took charge of the work of the churches of a province. They both are proficient in the Bible. Don’t they know that belief in God is belief in the Bible? They have so much knowledge of the Bible, how come they blindly believe in Eastern Lightning? I couldn’t understand, and this had become a riddle in my heart. Later, Sister Li and Sister Zhang, upper-level leaders, also accepted the work of Almighty God in the last days. One day, they brought Brother Zheng from Eastern Lightning to gather with us. Because he was brought by Sister Li and Sister Zhang, we sat there listening to his sermons quietly. Brother Zheng communicated from Genesis to Revelation for a whole morning. I listened with great interest and took notes carefully. I thought: Since I believed in God, I have never heard such a clear sermon. I have gained a lot from this meeting. Each of us was very moved. Finally, Brother Zheng told us, “The Lord Jesus has already returned in the name of Almighty God. He has opened the little scroll in Revelation.” Saying this, he gave each of us a book. We were very excited and didn’t know he was from Eastern Lightning. After they left, I went back home. Sitting on the bed, I looked at the little scroll on the desk. I thought to myself: Why do they read the little scroll but no longer read the Bible? At that moment, I suddenly realized: Could what Brother Zheng spread be the way of Eastern Lightning? The senior preacher said that the Eastern Lightning followers no longer read the Bible. But Brother Zheng told us that the scroll recorded in Revelation 5 has been opened, which is mentioned in the prophecy of the Bible and doesn’t depart from the Bible. However, the words of the senior preacher resounded in my ears. I was a bit sacred, and was unable to calm down. I rose from the bed in a clamor, walked out of the bedroom and stood on the balcony. Seeing the busy crowd downstairs, I lost myself in a deep thought: What should I do? Who on earth is right? What Brother Zheng said doesn’t depart from the Bible. But they read the little scroll, and say that it is God’s new work. If it truly is God’s new work, I must follow! Yet the senior preacher said that we should read the Bible when believing in God, and that departing from the Bible is not believing in God. If my belief is wrong, I won’t enter into the kingdom of heaven, and will be more pitiful than worldly people and receive even more severe chastisement. Alas! O Lord! What should I do? I paced back and forth between the room and balcony, not knowing how to choose the path ahead. I had no choice but to come before the Lord and pray to Him in tears, “O Lord, now your child is hesitating at the crossroads, not knowing which way to walk on. O Lord, please guide me the direction ahead. If what Brother Zheng said is right, please guide me. If not, please stop him. O Lord, please help me! …” Kneeling there, I felt so confused. I had been tormented for a time. One day, Brother Zheng came to gather with us again. Seeing that I looked worried, he asked me concernedly, “Little brother, how do you think about God’s new work?” I said, “Brother, our preacher told us that believing in God means believing in the Bible, and that departing from the Bible isn’t believing in God. Now you don’t read the Bible, but just read the little scroll. What is the reason? I can’t figure it out.” Brother Zheng said patiently, “Brother, the question you raised is quite good. Not only do you have this thought, but many religious people also do, thinking that believing in God, people must read the Bible, and that departing from the Bible is not believing in God. Let’s look back to the time of Noah and Abraham, there was no Bible. Can we say that they didn’t believe in God? There was also no Bible when Moses led the Israelites out of Egypt. Can we say that his faith was not in God? God is God, and the Bible is the Bible. The Bible can’t represent God. The Lord Jesus said that the Bible is a testimony for God. The Bible only recorded some work God had done, but it can’t represent God. So the Bible can’t replace God’s work and words in the last days at all. Especially, the scroll prophesied in the Book of Revelation was written by John after he received the revelations around 90 A.D., and it even more can’t replace God to save mankind. However, we have placed the Bible and God in the same position, and even see it higher than God. Don’t we replace God with the Bible? It seriously resists and…

A Discussion – A New Understanding of the Bible

In the morning, the breeze was blowing, the sun was warmly shining on the earth and the clouds were drifting in the blue sky. Liu Ming, Hao Meng, and Cheng Zhen sat on the bench in the pavilion of the park for the fresh air. But they were not at ease, frowning and discussing something. Liu Ming said, “At every gathering our pastors selected many golden verses for us to read and recite at home, and they said, ‘God’s word is our food of life. All God’s word is in the Bible, and outside the Bible there is no God’s word. So, our belief in the Lord means belief in the Bible….’ They think all God’s words are in the Bible. I have been thinking it is not right, but I can’t put my finger on it. What do you think about it?” “This question has also puzzled me for a long time.” Hao Meng said mildly, “These days, I studied the Bible and saw Revelation 5:1 say, ‘And I saw in the right hand of him that sat on the throne a book written within and on the backside, sealed with seven seals.’ Revelation is a book of prophecy. The book here should not refer to the Bible. If the content of the scroll isn’t recorded in the Bible, then isn’t the saying ‘All God’s word is in the Bible’ wrong?” “It’s really true.” Said Cheng Zhen, “This is what is recorded in Revelation. With regard to whether all God’s word is in the Bible and whether there is God’s word outside the Bible, we still need to seek more about this question.” “Hmm, I’m also thinking,” said Liu Ming, “The pastors said that all God’s word is in the Bible, but it was clearly prophesied in Revelation that there is a book written within and on the backside, sealed with seven seals. We always read and recite the sixty-six books of the Bible, but we haven’t ever read the content of the little scroll. There must be mysteries in it. We need to seek seriously.” At this moment, Liu Ming saw Brother Zhou practicing Taijiquan nearby, who was from their neighboring church. Liu Ming was overjoyed, so he at once asked Brother Zhou to come for a break and then sought from him. Liu Ming said, “Brother Zhou, we often explored the Bible when we had meetings in the same church. But since our church was divided, we have few chances to fellowship together. Not long ago, I went to listen to the sermons in the large-scale Bible study meeting your church held, but I didn’t see you. How have you been?” “Oh, I’m fine.” Brother Zhou said with smile, “In that period of time, I went to discuss the Bible with several brothers and sisters at the invitation of an old friend. We talked about our difficulties in the spiritual life. We kept fellowshiping for several days, and it benefited me a lot. Well, I just came back a few days ago.” At this news, Hao Meng and Cheng Zhen gathered around. Liu Ming said in delight, “That’s great. We are discussing a question. The pastors said that all God’s word is in the Bible, but we studied the Bible, seeing that Revelation said that there was a book in the right hand of him who sat on the throne, so we are not sure if it refers to the Bible. We consider that it can’t refer to the Bible, because it was written within and on the backside, sealed with seven seals, and if God doesn’t open it, no one can read it. If the book isn’t the Bible, while the pastors don’t allow us to read any other books and say that all God’s word is in the Bible, then they are wrong. I think that the pastors and elders know the Bible well, so what they said might be true. Alas, we are just ignorant of whether there is God’s word outside the Bible; we are confused about it. Brother Zhou, what do you think about this question?” Brother Zhou said, “I also heard brothers and sisters discuss this question, but without any conclusion. Besides, most brothers and sisters admire the pastors who studied theology, so they believe the pastors’ understanding couldn’t be wrong. But I thought: God is almighty and all-wise, and how could His word be only limited to that in the Bible? Yet I couldn’t justify it according to the Bible, nor could I understand it clearly. This time, invited by my old friend, I put forward this question to seek in our discussion. Through our fellowship, I understood a little.” Hearing this news, Liu Ming, Hao Meng, and Cheng Zhen smiled and sat closely, and hastened to say, “Please fellowship with us.” Then, Brother Zhou said, “Since we have believed in the Lord Jesus, we began to read the Bible, recite the Bible, so that the Bible becomes our lifeblood. But what kind of book is the Bible? And how did it come into being? Most of us believers don’t know these questions. That is why we can’t treat the Bible in a correct way. Now let’s first talk about how the Old and New Testament was compiled. In the Old Testament, the first book is Genesis and the last one is Malachi; it was compiled in 400 B.C. The Old Testament recorded God’s work of creation and the work of the Age of Law. As we all know, since mankind were corrupted by Satan, God began the work of saving mankind. God issued the laws through Moses, leading mankind to live on earth. After God did this work, some people wrote down the fact of God’s work, and combined with the prophets’ prophecies inspired by God, and the Old Testament came out. Then, how was the New Testament formed? In the New Testament, the first book is Matthew, written around from 37 A.D. to 40 A.D.; the last one is Revelation, completed from 94 A.D. to…

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Gains From Reading the Bible: The Bible Isn’t Entirely God’s Word

March 7 Sunny In gatherings, I often heard the pastor in our church preach, “All scripture is given by inspiration of God; everything in the Bible is the word of God.” So, I have been believing that all the words in the Bible are given by inspiration of God, and holding on to this saying without doubt. This morning, when I was practicing spiritual devotions, I saw it says in the Bible, “All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness” (2 Timothy 3:16). Suddenly I thought of these verses: “And he said to the woman, Yes, has God said, You shall not eat of every tree of the garden? And the woman said to the serpent, We may eat of the fruit of the trees of the garden: But of the fruit of the tree which is in the middle of the garden, God has said, You shall not eat of it, neither shall you touch it, lest you die. And the serpent said to the woman, You shall not surely die: For God does know that in the day you eat thereof, then your eyes shall be opened, and you shall be as gods, knowing good and evil” (Genesis 3:1-5). Are these not man’s words or Satan’s words? I also thought of the words with which Satan tempted the Lord Jesus for three times after the Lord Jesus fasted in the wilderness for forty days. Do those words not also prove that there are words of Satan in the Bible? So how can we say that everything in the Bible is the word of God? But then I thought: Brother Paul clearly said that all scripture is given by inspiration of God; the pastors and elders have always said that everything in the Bible is the word of God. Could they be wrong? At that time, a big question mark appeared in my mind. March 8 Sunny Today, when reading the Bible, I suddenly thought of the question of yesterday, which I wanted to figure out very much. So, I searched the Bible carefully, finding that there are not only the words of Satan but also the words of an ass in the Bible. For example, Numbers 22:28: “And the LORD opened the mouth of the ass, and she said to Balaam, What have I done to you, that you have smitten me these three times?”; Numbers 22:30: “And the ass said to Balaam, Am not I your ass, on which you have ridden ever since I was your to this day? was I ever wont to do so to you? And he said, No.” Seeing these verses, I felt more doubtful about the saying “All scripture is given by inspiration of God; everything in the Bible is God’s word.” Not until I read 2 Timothy 3:16 again did I suddenly understand: Isn’t it Paul’s word? Are Paul’s words and his thirteen epistles not also recorded in the Bible? Though his epistles benefit people a bit, they are still his understanding and knowledge, which can’t represent God’s will. Besides, the words of those apostles who followed the Lord Jesus like Peter and John, of the Pharisees, and of the ruling authorities are all man’s words. Could it be that their words are also given by inspiration of God? Obviously not! Thank the Lord! I felt a little brightened in my heart. March 10 Overcast to Sunny Today, after the gathering, I came across Pastor Wang in our church who has some unique insights when preaching and viewing things. We often gained some benefit from listening to him. So I asked him how he understood the saying “All scripture is given by inspiration of God; everything in the Bible is God’s word.” Then he said flatly, “The saying ‘All scripture is given by inspiration of God’ was spoken neither by Jehovah God, nor by the Lord Jesus but by Paul. Since it is Paul’s word, it only represents his personal understanding and knowledge, not God’s will. Because he is just a created being, a man corrupted by Satan, it is inevitable that there are mixtures and erroneousness in his words. We believers in God should view things according to God’s words. In the Bible, only the words of Jehovah, the words of the Lord Jesus, and the words of God conveyed by the prophets are God’s words. Since God never said ‘All scripture is given by inspiration of God; everything in the Bible is God’s word,’ we can’t hold on to this saying.” After hearing Pastor Wang’s sharing, I felt brightened in my heart: What he said was completely right. God never said that all scripture is given by inspiration of Him and that everything in the Bible is His word. However, I treat man’s words as God’s words and as the truth to keep. I’m so foolish! From now on, I should believe in God according to His words and heed His words. By Cheng Hang, the United States

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