Listening to Pastors Is Not Obedience to the Lord

When I see some brothers and sisters in the Lord refuse to hear, see or investigate God’s kingdom gospel, it occurs to me that I had dared not investigate the gospel of the kingdom because I used to look up to the pastors, was snared and controlled by them, which caused me to live in the darkness for several years and almost lose the Lord’s salvation in the last days. Thank God for His guidance. At last I finally broke free from the snare, came before God, and led a new life …

Since I was little, I believed in the Lord and went with my parents to church. At that time, I couldn’t make sense of the sermons of the pastors and preachers, nor understood the Bible. But my parents always said to me, “‘Let every soul be subject to the higher powers. For there is no power but of God: the powers that be are ordained of God’ (Romans 13:1). So we should listen to the pastors in our belief in the Lord. We cannot retort or doubt their words, because they are all established by God and they are our good shepherds.” These words were branded on my mind.

In my third year in junior high school, I was baptized and formally became a true Christian. After that, I frequently went to church and participated in fellowships. At that time, the pastors could fellowship some understanding of verses in the Bible, and sometimes they would talk about their personal experiences, which was beneficial to me. In particular, when they shared their experiential testimonies of how they worked for the Lord, I felt that they really had a lot of faith. Thus, I concluded in my heart that the pastors and elders were established by God and then started to admire them. I thought to myself: The pastors and elders have suffered so much yet still could work for the Lord, they must truly know the Lord and understand more of God’s will than I do. Therefore, I could not help but worship and look up to them.

When I was in high school, the pastors and elders began to say some negative information about Eastern Lightning and often told us: “Do not contact Eastern Lightning followers. They just believe in an ordinary person. Their sermons are quite profound, but your spiritual lives are still too small. You will be deceived once you listen to their preaching….” I firmly believed these words of the pastors, so I began to adopt the attitude of not contacting or investigating Eastern Lightning. Every time I saw videos, books or articles from Eastern Lightning on YouTube, I would skip over them, afraid of being deceived by them. After entering the university, I joined in some college fellowships where the pastors and preachers also often preached the message of resisting Eastern Lightning to us, and asked us not to listen to or contact it. After hearing these negative messages they released, I was more afraid of contacting Eastern Lightning.

Before I knew it, it was my sophomore year of college. During that time, I found I was always negative and weak; and frequently, I felt no strength in my heart, not knowing what I should say to God in prayer. So the only thing I could do was place all my hopes in the pastors’ preaching in every Sunday, wishing to gain new enlightenment from them. For this reason, every time I attended Sunday’s meeting I would listen attentively. But the pastors’ sermons became more and more lackluster. They all talked about the old things about the Biblical knowledge and how to guard against Eastern Lightning. Every time I had to return in disappointment. Once, our college fellowship planned to invite a preacher who had served the Lord for many years. Everybody said that he was familiar with the Bible and thus we could surely gain a lot from his preaching. So, I was expecting that in my heart. But I never thought that the preacher also spoke about how to guard against Eastern Lightning. Furthermore, not only did he openly curse at the brothers and sisters in Eastern Lightning, he also had us students do the same. I felt uneasy in my heart at that time, thinking: We are all sinners, how could we curse at others? The Lord Jesus taught us to love others as ourselves and to love our enemies; however, this preacher leads us students to curse others, is this in accordance with the Lord’s will? At that moment I thought of the words in the Bible, “Judge not, that you be not judged” (Matthew 7:1), “Therefore you are inexcusable, O man, whoever you are that judge: for wherein you judge another, you condemn yourself; for you that judge do the same things” (Romans 2:1). These words reminded me that we, who believed in God, should not judge or condemn others at will before we knew the facts. So I did not do as the preacher said.

Listening to Pastors Is Not Obedience to the Lord

 

After that, I gave up the idea of gaining enlightenment through going to the church for gatherings. I began to read spiritual books by myself every day. But after a period of time, I still could not find direction and my spirit grew weak and withered. For those spiritual books only described verses or talked about some stories of the historical figures, without any new path. Then I thought: Have God already left me? Why do I feel I was running out of strength? Sometimes I would sit on the playground and stare upward at the moon lost in thought, thinking: Lord! Where are You? Why I cannot feel Your presence? Why I cannot receive any supply though I went to church gatherings? At the time when I was most confused, I encountered God’s gospel of the kingdom.

One day, I got acquainted with Sister Chen Nuo and Brother Zheng on the Internet. We always had discussion about the Bible verses together, and about how the Lord would return in the last days and so forth. I always could gain new enlightenment from them. Once, when we were studying the Bible, we saw the Bible says, “Be you therefore ready also: for the Son of man comes at an hour when you think not” (Luke 12:40). “For as the lightning, that lightens out of the one part under heaven, shines to the other part under heaven; so shall also the Son of man be in his day. But first must he suffer many things, and be rejected of this generation” (Luke 17:24–25). Sister Chen Nuo fellowshiped, “These prophecies all mention ‘the Son of man comes’ or ‘the coming of the Son of man’. The Son of man means that He is born of man with bone and flesh, and has the image of a human and normal humanity. If God’s Spirit comes, He cannot be called the Son of man, since the Spirit is formless and amorphous and can neither be touched nor seen by man. So ‘the Son of man’ tells us that God will be incarnate. The Lord Jesus was called the Son of man, Christ, because He was the incarnate flesh of God’s Spirit, was the Spirit realized in the flesh and so became an ordinary and normal man, living in the company of the people; while Jehovah God worked in Spirit form. He did not incarnate and thus He could not be called the Son of man or Christ. The Lord Jesus said that He would still be the Son of man in His return. It means that when He comes back, He will still be in the flesh and in the identity of the Son of man but not the Spirit. This fulfills the prophecy in the Bible that: ‘But first must he suffer many things, and be rejected of this generation’. It further proves that the Lord will come through incarnation in the last days. Have a think: If the Lord returns and appears to us in the Spirit, then He will not suffer as much, let alone be rejected by this generation again. Who dares to reject God’s Spirit? How can God’s Spirit suffer hardship? Then whether the Lord will come back through incarnation or in the Spirit can be seen clearly.”

Sister’s fellowship about the Bible verses surprised me and yet were irrefutable. Formerly, in my opinion and even in the eyes of the whole religious world, it was believed that the Lord would descend on the clouds in the spiritual body when He came back. Today, it wasn’t until after I listened to Sister’s fellowship that I understood that the Bible also prophesied the Lord would return through incarnation. The more I listened, the more I felt that such sermons came from God and had the enlightenment of the Holy Spirit. Therefore, I quieted my heart and pondered over sister’s words. I thought to myself, “Now that the incarnate God has the image of a human and normal humanity, then what is the difference between the incarnate God and us ordinary man?” With perplexity, I put forward these questions to seek.

Then, Brother Zhao sent me two passages of God’s words: “The incarnate God is called Christ, and Christ is the flesh donned by the Spirit of God. This flesh is unlike any man that is of the flesh. This difference is because Christ is not of flesh and blood but is the incarnation of the Spirit. He has both a normal humanity and a complete divinity. His divinity is not possessed by any man. His normal humanity sustains all His normal activities in the flesh, while His divinity carries out the work of God Himself.” “Because He is a man with the essence of God, He is above any of created humans, above any man who can perform God’s work. And so, among all those with a human shell like His, among all those who possess humanity, only He is the incarnate God Himself—all others are created humans. Though they all have humanity, created humans are nothing but human, while God incarnate is different: In His flesh He not only has humanity but more importantly has divinity.

Brother Zhao fellowshiped, “In outward appearance, the incarnate God looks like an ordinary and normal man, and does not seem different than anyone else, but He can do God’s work, express God’s disposition, and is equipped with what God has and is. According to our needs, He can express the truth to supply us and save us at any time and place. Just like the Lord Jesus Christ, from the outside, He looked like an ordinary and normal person, but He could perform signs and miracles, such as calming the wind and sea, feeding five thousand people with just five loaves of bread and two fish, resurrecting the dead and so on; He could express the truth, bestow upon men the way of repentance, and do the work of crucifixion to redeem all mankind. All revelations of the Lord Jesus words and work are manifestations of God’s life and disposition and of God’s has and is. Christ has both normal humanity and complete divinity, and His substance is the divinity. While we corrupt mankind has nothing but humanity.”

Brother Zhao’s fellowship edified and benefited me so greatly. In the past, I just knew that the Lord Jesus is God, but I did not know the divine substance of Jesus Christ. It was no wonder that the Jews treated the Lord Jesus as an ordinary man, saying the Lord Jesus was the son of carpenter Joseph, and that they did not acknowledge that the Lord Jesus is God. It turned out that it was all because they did not know the divine substance of Christ but just saw the outward appearance of Christ. These words were spoken so well and talked about the difference between Christ and us ordinary and normal man so plainly and thoroughly. Thinking of this, I asked the brother immediately, “Where are these words from? How can your fellowship be so enlightening? I also study the Bible earnestly every day, but why could I not gain such enlightenment and knowledge?”

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